There are much more fundamental issues being debated. And labor presidents are determined to keep the details of conversations under wraps for as long as possible.
They include: how and where organizing is done, what political priorities are should be, labor's relationship with the Democratic Party, labor's relationship to the Republican Party, union dues -- how labor relates to companies in a globalized economy -- and even more basic definitional issues...
Negotiations are very preliminary. Someone familiar with the discussions described them as "pretty full" -- but with no resolution to any issue. Ex-Rep. David Bonior, who is leading the discussion, is putting together a working paper that would serve as the basis for future debate.
Something to keep an eye on.